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Post by Elyse Umemoto on Feb 21, 2013 0:03:33 GMT -5
Yes, I went there. Here before us today we have the three wise monkeys. Brandon, I didn't see you at all in this game. (See) Rick, I couldn't understand what you said at times in challenges. (Speak) Papa Bear, I couldn't hear you at all from Redemption. (Hear) All kidding aside though, congrats on making the end to the three of you. You guys are however, like the Three Wise Monkeys. Each of you only have one redeeming quality about you. I will admit though, I don't like this final 3, partly because I didn't want to vote for either of you three since I don't think you deserved it over some of the other people. Sadly, I can't. Hence my vote, has yet to be decided, which will be finalized from these Q and A's. Brandon, your going to have to work hard for my vote since we never talked and I felt like you were borderline inactive. Rick, you as well are going to have to work hard because we never spoke, and I perceived you as more of a follower. Papa Bear, just because we were allies, you do not have my vote guaranteed either since you missed most of the game being on Redemption. Winning challenges isn't enough to win a social game like Survivor and I feel like you lack the biggest aspect like the others as well having missed most of the merge and onwards. Hell, if it weren't for me, you would have been voted out over Keith, so your welcome Anyways, on to questions. Some are serious, others are fun and for self-gratification. Please take them all seriously and answer them as detailed as possible and put your best effort forward. The game is still not done and the game will be decided with your answers, so don't fuck up, it might cost you. 1) Why DO you deserve to win considering all three of you lacked the social aspect of this game quiet a bit for your own reasons.
2) If this were a final 2 instead of a 3, and you won immunity, who would you eliminate and why?
3) Replace the final 3 with three jurors and explain why for each person.
4) Compare ME to somebody on Survivor based on how you perceived my game play (Note to Brandon and Rick - I did not get blindsided before merge, I asked to be voted out to save Whitney and because I had the best chance at the time to eliminate Christine and come back, so do not count my elimination as a negative against me for the comparison).
5) Survivor is a social game and you need to have gotten to know people very well to win. So, tell me what you know about me. My attitude, my behaviour, whatever. Tell me what you know about me, so I have an idea about whether you were completely aloof this game or you knew more then you let on and just chose not to talk to me.
6) Which final 3 member had the worst opening statement and why. Please cite specific examples.
7) Who would you vote for to win between the other two men sitting beside you and why?
8) Rank the jurors in terms of who you thought was the biggest threat to win this game and smallest. (1 being biggest threat)
9) Compare each juror to a character from The Walking Dead and explain why. If you don't watch the show or have no idea what I am talking about... I suggest you start researching. Google is very helpful.BONUS POINTS: If the vote is still a toss-up after you have all answered everyone's questions, then you'll need some luck. Gambling time. This Friday the New York Knicks are facing the Toronto Raptors (NBA Game). Who do you think will win and what will the final score be. This is just for fun and will take you less then a minute even if you have no idea about sports.Good Luck guys.
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Post by Mark "Papa Bear" Caruso on Feb 21, 2013 2:16:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the questions, Elyse!
1) Why DO you deserve to win considering all three of you lacked the social aspect of this game quiet a bit for your own reasons. I can honestly say my lack on communication on Redemption Island was 100% intentional. Very early in the game, the hosts made a couple of posts referencing how people on Redmeption Island should not be posting on the main boards. So, to me, that meant that being on Redemption Island also meant that I should not be interacting or interfering with the main flow of the game. I am kind of an old-school, conventional Survivor fan, so I try to play these games as much like the real show is played. To me, that means that when I'm on Redemption Island, I should only be talking to the other people on Redemption. In my eyes, if I am on one tribe, I don't attempt to talk to people on the other tribe.
Believe me, I would have much preferred any other alternative. I did not want to go to Redemption Island so early (if at all even) and was really down and out about being so disconnected from the main flow of things toward the beginning of my time there. I did not log on to AIM once after I was voted out, but signed on immediately when I returned to the game. It was all completely intentional and something that I saw as the proper way to handle time on Redemption Island.
2) If this were a final 2 instead of a 3, and you won immunity, who would you eliminate and why? Without a doubt, I would vote for Brandon if this were a final two and I held the power in my hands. Rick and I had a pretty solid connection when I returned to the game after Redemption Island, and I actually had extensively entertained the notion of voting out Brandon in the last tribal council before the finals. It's not that I have anything against him, but I just really struggled with the notion of him making the finals. So, if we had one more tribal council remaining, I probably would vote for Brandon and go to the final two with Rick.
3) Replace the final 3 with three jurors and explain why for each person. I like this question a lot.
- Stacey - Truth be told, before I was sent to Redemption Island, I didn't think Stacey was very strong at all. I thought she was benefitting from being on a strong tribe, but I severely underestimated her. She played the game with a lot of confidence, openly admitting at tribal council after tribal council that she was never worried (whether sincere or not) and even had guts to give up an immunity necklace one time and putting herself at risk again. In terms of Redemption Island duels, no one can compete with how tough of a fight she put up. She technically beat me, but I managed to complete the challenge without any mistakes while she had one. The best way I know to put it is that Stacey was tough.
- Cochran - I am well aware that he hates my guts right now, but I don't think there is any doubt that he deserves this. I essentially made the move I did because I felt like my entire game was characterized by a consistently strong reputation in challenges but no track record of making a big move or being willing to play with my head when the opportunity presented itself. It pained me to do, but I felt like that is what I needed to do. But, altogether, I think Cochran played a really great game all around and was always doing whatever it took to maneuver and put himself in the most optimum situations. He had no glaring weaknesses, and is thus someone I would put in the finals from the jury.
- Elyse - I was on the fence between two people for this last spot, but I think I ultimately would have to reward it to you, Elyse. In a confessional from the very first round of this game, I pegged you as someone who was going to be an influential mover and shaker in this game, and I think you were consistently that throughout the whole game. You always seemed to be giving your A game and never backed down from anyone after the merge. Had you originally started this game on Upolu, I think things would have been drastically different for you. The fact that you were constantly having to fight against the numbers instead of with them and often deal with a target on your back prevented you from making the final three, when I think you would have been there under any other circumstances.
4) Compare ME to somebody on Survivor based on how you perceived my game play I'm not sure how you're going to feel about this, but I think I would actually compare you to someone like Penner. Like Penner, I know you had a passion for this game and invested a lot of time and effort into it. There were many times where you carried the weight for us in challenges on Savaii, investing hours upon hours into what turned out to be a lost cause for our tribe that could never seem to buy a win. I remember from our time on Savaii that you were constantly talking to everyone on our tribe and built a good, stable relationship with everyone so you could get to know what everyone was thinking, comparable to Penner. Similarly, you were always strategizing, even going as far as to throw yourself under the bus right before the merge so that our tribe wouldn't be down as much in numbers when the merge hit, move that baffled and confused me at the time. At times, I felt like you were able to further yourself in the game just because you made so much noise and were such a big target to have to take out. You were threatened for several rounds at the beginning of the merge to prepare yourself to be voted out, but they always opted for other options when the time came. I feel like this directly coincides with how daunting of a task it has always been to take out Penner. So, that's who I'm going with for you...
5) Survivor is a social game and you need to have gotten to know people very well to win. So, tell me what you know about me. My attitude, my behaviour, whatever. Tell me what you know about me, so I have an idea about whether you were completely aloof this game or you knew more then you let on and just chose not to talk to me. Okay, here goes nothing. I remember for certain that you were college aged and always had a busy week with work and things. I specifically remember talking with you around Christmas time about how busy we both were during the holidays. That's kind of random, but something that sticks out in my memory. I remember that you are not from the south, and I want to say you are from somewhere west of my home state of Tennessee. I could be way off on that one, but I feel like I remember you telling me you were from Colorado or something like that. If that's wrong, I apologize. I remember we used to chat frequently while together on Savaii, but our social interactions seemed to be typically focused around the game. As far as attitude goes, I know you are very charismatic and well-spoken, something that can easily be detected from this board. You always seemed to respond in paragraphs, not mere words, and I know that you did not consider yourself a night owl (although you were known to invest the extra late night hour into challenges from time to time). You can be a risk taker from time to time, too.
6) Which final 3 member had the worst opening statement and why. Please cite specific examples. I don't mean to pick on Brandon again, but I just had a hard time believing his. He mentioned certain things like how he performed well in tribal challenges, but I don't remember him ever being someone we saw as threatening in challenges. For example, in the puzzle piece challenge, he only scored a total of two pieces that entire time. He went on to say that he never took commitments to seriously, because he never knew if they were temporary or permanent, stating that you never know who you can trust. But I would argue that trust is something that is built over time and is earned through consistent effort and convincing language. I was able to establish a level of trust with multiple players in this game simply by frequently contacting them, providing encouragement and reinforcement, and letting it be known that I was someone who could be trusted. He cited the merge as being a turning point in the game where he chose to be more aggressive, but I felt like he became less active and was known to going missing on the board for a couple days at a time during that time. I don't want to belittle his game, because I know he invested a lot of effort and was able to make it here in his own right, but I'm skeptical of some of the comments he made.
7) Who would you vote for to win between the other two men sitting beside you and why? I told Rick in the final five that I had a lot of respect for him and that if I ended up on the jury, my vote would be going for him. I stick to that. I know his game is not flawless (neither is mine), but I appreciated the interactions we had together and feel like I was able to make a true friend in the closing days of this game. He played well.
8) Rank the jurors in terms of who you thought was the biggest threat to win this game and smallest. (1 being biggest threat) I'm not entirely sure what time in the game we are referring to here. My perceptions of who the biggest threat was changed a lot throughout the course of the game. So I'm going to rank them how I would any time in the last few weeks.
1 Stacey - I said it earlier, and I'll say it again: Stacey was tough. She put up a good fight and played the game with confidence and grit. 2 Elyse - I think you would have had a lot of supporters had you made the finals. You made positive interactions with several people. And since the question specifies biggest threat to win the game, I'll put you in the 2 slot. 3 Cochran - Also as previously mentioned, his game really didn't have any glaring weaknesses. He made some moves of his own and did well in challenges, and that sort of all around game can rank you pretty high as a threat to win the game. 4 Sophie - I'm torn on where to put Sophie. I originally thought higher than this because I think she likely has the support of many of her old tribemates, but I'm just not sure. Assuming she is, it would be hard not to have her higher than this even given her resume. 5 Coach - I thought Coach didn't get the credit he was due. He was a good guy and a pleasure to meet at Redemption Island, and I think he left the game before his time. But that's part of it. 6 Whitney - I'm actually really impressed with Whitney. She was on the outs of our tribe in the beginning and overcame that as well as our disadvantage in numbers to finish 8th. She held her own. 7 Dawn - Dawn was a good friend and a lot of fun to talk to. We were really close, but I was disappointed to see her get voted out with the idol still in her pocket. That sucks. 8 Mikayla - I only have her down here because I never got extremely close to her and don't exactly know what moves could be classified as hers. But she seemed sweet in conversation. 9 Edna - I do not think that Edna was the worst player on the jury. In fact, I think she shook up things quite a bit and made a name for herself. But the question asks who is the biggest threat to win, and I think a lot of people on the jury wouldn't be able to get past the fake account, inappropriate pictures, and other things that she did over the season.
9) Compare each juror to a character from The Walking Dead and explain why. If you don't watch the show or have no idea what I am talking about... I suggest you start researching. Google is very helpful. I despise this question. I don't watch The Walking Dead, so I'm going to have to join the Google club.
Cochran - Shane Walsh - My understanding is that he was a close friend of Rick's but was not opposed to engaging in his own pursuits. Likewise, I think Elyse and Cochran had a solid relationship but not so close that he wouldn't be willing to do things on his own, or vice versa. Sophie - the Governor - Just as he served as the town's leader and someone to turn to, I think Sophie very much anchored and influenced Upolu Stacey - Dr. Edwin Jenner - When everyone else was taken out or committed suice, this doctor initially remained firm and tenacious in the first season. Similarly, Stacey was not intimidated by the number of people I had eliminated in Redemption Island and actually put up a fight that was difficult to beat. In the end, she too met her demise early. Elyse - Rick Grimes - according to this, he is a key influencer in the series, and I think there were many ways that you impacted the game, both directly and indirectly. Whitney - Lori - Just as she was apparently pregnant and had to work to overcome those challenges, Whitney had many challenges of her own to overcome just to further herself. Edna - The walkers - Just as anyone would avoid the wrath of the walkers, I think many people tried to appease Edna to avoid any of her wrath as well. Getting bitten by her could be potentially fatal for anyone in her path. Mikayla - Randall - Just as he was attacked and left behind by his group, Mikayla was left behind while there were still some Savaii members left in the picture. In that regard, she went before her time. Dawn - Hershel Greene - this person allegedly had a large farm and was willing to help out; similarly, Dawn had all she ever needed in the form of a hidden immunity idol and was willing to help out the tribe in any way she could, but it ultimately backfired Coach - Michonne - Michonne had plans to kill someone but ended up being failing to do so and having an alternative, surprise outcome come his way. Likewise, I think Coach had many plans in the game, but they did not go as he had envisioned them.
I'm sorry if this sucks. I tried my best with limited knowledge concerning a show I know nothing about.
BONUS I'm going to go with the Knicks over the Raptors, 109-98.
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Post by Sophie Clarke on Feb 21, 2013 2:54:17 GMT -5
I could be way off on that one, but I feel like I remember you telling me you were from Colorado or something like that. If that's wrong, I apologize. That would be me, hon.
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Post by Elyse Umemoto on Feb 21, 2013 3:18:29 GMT -5
Thanks P Bear. You didn't have to explain your lack of social gameplay while at Redemption, I knew it was out of your control and even I wouldn't have socialized if I was on Redemption, I was just merely asking why you should win despite that being a handicap to you. Wayyy more North P Bear Like Great White North Anyways, thanks for answering promptly and good luck!
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Post by Dawn Meehan on Feb 21, 2013 3:39:45 GMT -5
Hershel Greene don't make no apple pies!
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Post by Mark "Papa Bear" Caruso on Feb 21, 2013 9:47:49 GMT -5
Sorry about the confusion on where you're from Elyse and Sophie. My bad!
And also sorry to Dawn about the Hershel Green comparison. Frankly, I wouldn't know Hershel Green if he was standing beside me, so I had to use what little information I could.
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Post by Whitney Duncan on Feb 21, 2013 13:06:20 GMT -5
While Lori was far from a character I could appreciate, I'll take it lol
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Post by Rick Nelson on Feb 21, 2013 13:51:45 GMT -5
Still processing the questions. Probably going to answer these tonight when I get home tomorrow. ._.
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Post by Elyse Umemoto on Feb 21, 2013 23:40:35 GMT -5
You have until 7pm tomorrow for the Bonus to count... just saying. Games tomorrow.
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Post by Elyse Umemoto on Feb 23, 2013 0:12:25 GMT -5
SHOT CLOCK VIOLATION ON RICK AND BRANDON. and Papa Bear, you were WRONG! 100-98 Raptors Rick and Brandon I expect answers so your bonus (since you failed to answer in time) is now: Atlanta Hawks @ Milwaukee Bucks tomorrow - who wins and whats the score. YOU HAVE UNTIL 8:30 PM TOMORROW
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Post by Rick Nelson on Feb 24, 2013 15:39:10 GMT -5
1) Why DO you deserve to win considering all three of you lacked the social aspect of this game quiet a bit for your own reasons.Because I was the one whom had to survive despite lacking the social aspect. Don't get me wrong, Papa Bear did great surviving Redemption Island, but there it's just "focus on the challenge," and not "avoid getting voted out." My name had been brought up a few times, but thanks to the help of my allies and a lot of luck, I forged my way here. 2) If this were a final 2 instead of a 3, and you won immunity, who would you eliminate and why?Brandon. I mean, most days of the week I would totally eliminate Papa Bear, since that'd be closer to an easy win for me... but I know I'd feel awful about doing so and be mopey all final tribal council. Dat's no good. I'm playing for fun, not for feels. So I'd take Papa Bear to the Final 2 with me, since I do feel like we connected, and I respect him enough to be at the finale with him. 3) Replace the final 3 with three jurors and explain why for each person.Sophie, Stacey, and Mikayla. Early in the game, those three were the three I really liked on Upolu. Going into the merge, I had hoped to get to the Final 4 with them, at which point I would lay down and let myself get voted out. Didn't last long, though. My plans had to change pretty quick. :/ 4) Compare ME to somebody on Survivor based on how you perceived my game play (Note to Brandon and Rick - I did not get blindsided before merge, I asked to be voted out to save Whitney and because I had the best chance at the time to eliminate Christine and come back, so do not count my elimination as a negative against me for the comparison).You know, I kinda already knew about the whole thing with you and Redemption Island. It was pretty obvious. ._. As such, I kinda saw you like Ozzy in South Pacific. You were strong in challenges and a major social threat, which can be a deadly combination of traits. 5) Survivor is a social game and you need to have gotten to know people very well to win. So, tell me what you know about me. My attitude, my behaviour, whatever. Tell me what you know about me, so I have an idea about whether you were completely aloof this game or you knew more then you let on and just chose not to talk to me.Frankly, I don't think I know you very well. You made friends easily, so I assume you're good at rapport. You were strong in challenges and always active, so I assume you're very dedicated. You also have a gif that keep distracting me while I try and write my answers. Srsly this is hard. Elyse is hot. ._. 6) Which final 3 member had the worst opening statement and why. Please cite specific examples.Brandon, for the same reasons as Papa Bear stated. However, I want to point out this line: "you don't know the real story behind a story and you guys are already making a decision" haha, bullshit. The jury's not dumb. They can figure out EXACTLY what happened to get us three to the end. They also have more view points and the ability to compare notes, so they likely know what happened better then we do, and we were the ones who did it. I don't expect any less of a jury, which is why the finale is so intimidating. 7) Who would you vote for to win between the other two men sitting beside you and why?Papa Bear. I respect him more as a player, and he has an extreme passion for the game as shown by his Redemption Wins. 8) Rank the jurors in terms of who you thought was the biggest threat to win this game and smallest. (1 being biggest threat)Going to count it down. 9th. Edna - While Edna did do a lot in this game, I don't think a jury would respect her. 8th-7th. These spots are hard to narrow down, but I'm going to put Dawn and Whitney here. Not sure which one had a better chance over the other, due to not really getting to know them. :/ 6th. Coach - It's hard to judge, since he left so early before I was thinking of "threats to win," but Coach could come up with some solid plans, so he might've been a if he were here. 5th. Mikayla - Similar to Coach, but more because I saw her as an ally and not as a threat at the time of her departure. 4th. Elyse - While I didn't get to know you well, like Whitney and Dawn, I would constantly hear about you, both as a target and a threat. It seemed pretty universal that people were scared about you getting far. 3rd. Stacey - She probably accomplished far more then I know, but that's where this is an opinion question and my opinion is Stacey was a big player, but likely not the biggest threat. In that sense, she had a higher chance of getting to the end and winning, thus making her a BIG threat. (And thus why she's ranked really high, but not at the top) 2nd. Cochran - He survived very well. If he had won the final immunity, he probably would have had a shot at winning. 1st. Sophie - Sophie and I played very close together this game, so as someone who understood the way she went about things, I could very easily see her winning. The aspects of the game I sucked at, she excelled. Thus I still see her as my biggest threat of the game. 9) Compare each juror to a character from The Walking Dead and explain why. If you don't watch the show or have no idea what I am talking about... I suggest you start researching. Google is very helpful.oh god damn it. I hung out with a friend yesterday who could have helped me with this, and I asked and they said yes, but then we never really did it. Compare questions are hard. Especially when you're OCD about them like I am. Since I don't know the source material, I don't feel I could do it perfectly, and if I can't do it perfectly then I might as well not even start.
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Post by Rick Nelson on Feb 24, 2013 15:40:26 GMT -5
Bonus Point:
I don't know Basketball well enough to know what a normal score is.
I like Football and Baseball. ._.
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Post by Sophie Clarke on Feb 24, 2013 16:20:29 GMT -5
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Post by Brandon Hantz on Feb 25, 2013 8:41:01 GMT -5
1) Why DO you deserve to win considering all three of you lacked the social aspect of this game quiet a bit for your own reasons. I maybe played a UTR game, but I was able to survive every single tribal council I attended despite the fact that I'm being targeted most of the time and I don't know the reason behind that. I wasn't the person who always get out there and be vocal. I'm doing my own business behind your back and that's what count the most to me. I'm playing a quiet game but I proved that I'm not the person who will just follow what you guys have to say. I always make it to a point that my opinions are heard when doing strategy. 2) If this were a final 2 instead of a 3, and you won immunity, who would you eliminate and why?If I am being practical and yes, I'd say I'm gonna be practical. I'm gonna eliminate Rick because he's slowly becoming a jury favorite and that's bad news to me. 3) Replace the final 3 with three jurors and explain why for each person.Edna - I know this sounds really crazy, but I think Edna deserves a spot in the final three. She's really a strong competitor. She's very composed even though she has a lot of fights and a lot of haters. Sometimes, I'm thinking if should I align myself with this person and use her or should I just let go of her. Oh My God! She doesn't stop talking. Private Messages, AIM Chat, etc. She's everywhere! She doesn't just leave you alone. Mikayla - I know how good she is. I mean, one day we were like on the same box trying to escape the shadows of the front runners, but I saw in her the sincerity and dedication in what she does in this game and I salute her on that. Elyse - If Elyse made it to the end, I'm gonna vote for her. She has been consistently good in every aspect of this game and that's what a winner should have in them. 4) Compare ME to somebody on Survivor based on how you perceived my game play (Note to Brandon and Rick - I did not get blindsided before merge, I asked to be voted out to save Whitney and because I had the best chance at the time to eliminate Christine and come back, so do not count my elimination as a negative against me for the comparison). Ozzy. You sacrificed yourself to go at redemption in order to save your tribe and it paid off. It wasn't in your control. You risks your one life in this game and that's a courage move! Aside from that, you are really a force to be reckoned with. You are strong, manipulative and Ozzy has those traits. 5) Survivor is a social game and you need to have gotten to know people very well to win. So, tell me what you know about me. My attitude, my behaviour, whatever. Tell me what you know about me, so I have an idea about whether you were completely aloof this game or you knew more then you let on and just chose not to talk to me. Well, I never really got a chance to know you better because I think we never talked. But you have really good communication skills, you're funny (based on your rants against Edna) and you're a strong girl. 6) Which final 3 member had the worst opening statement and why. Please cite specific examples. I will say Papa Bear had the worst opening statement. I am amazed by what he says all throughout. He has good communication skills and I think he's just playing with the jury. You know, a good speaker most of the time wins it all. 7) Who would you vote for to win between the other two men sitting beside you and why?I'll vote for Papa Bear. He spent most of the time in Redemption Island and beat every single one of you in the jury (except for Sophie and Coch). That is not luck at all, he made a lot of efforts to win every battle and that is pure hardwork. 8) Rank the jurors in terms of who you thought was the biggest threat to win this game and smallest. (1 being biggest threat)1 - Cochran 2 - Elyse 3 - Sophie 4 - Dawn 5 - Mikayla 6 - Stacey 7 - Whitney 8 - Edna 9 - Coach 9) Compare each juror to a character from The Walking Dead and explain why. If you don't watch the show or have no idea what I am talking about... I suggest you start researching. Google is very helpful.I haven't watch the series because I'm planning to watch it on vacation, so I can't answer that.
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Post by Edna Ma #1 on Feb 25, 2013 10:00:23 GMT -5
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